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GEORGE LUCK
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« on: June 22, 2010, 06:29:41 PM »

The Board of Directors of the ALLANCE of CANADIAN HOME INSPECTORS is proud to announce the arrival of this, Canadas first home inspector organization designed for the benefit of ALL Canadian Home Inspectors. In an industry that has been torn by antagonism, elitism, failed promises and disappearing certifications, it was time that new people with new ideas and new directions came together to provide fellow Inspectors with the kind of representative organization that we have all looked for over these many years. And so was born the A.C.H.I.

Why do we need yet another home inspector organization?

Many may ask that question and it is a question that was asked in the board room before the A.C.H.I. was formed. And here is the answer;

Canadian Home Inspectors need an association that
•Provides inspectors with the opportunity to receive education without the unbearable expense that so many other organizations impose on their members. After all, if improving all members knowledge base is the reason for providing that education to members, shouldnt it be made as easy and inexpensive as possible? Can it be any less expensive than FREE?
•Provides real political representation in the halls of government. Until now, Canadian Inspectors were represented by letter writing campaigns, and visits to M.P.s offices for discussions over coffee. These efforts were laudable for their time but little was accomplished and what was accomplished has lately dissolved. Few actual Inspectors were consulted and the desires of fewer still were represented. Now, with access to over 27 professional paid lobbyists, the backing of 130,000 supporters and Canadas most powerful union, Canadian Inspectors have a voice that will be listened to by those who make decisions.
•Accepts all practicing Home Inspectors. The A.C.H.I. has been formed to welcome as many Home Inspectors as want to join. For the first year after the official launch, any practicing Home Inspector who has completed a minimum one or more years of documented inspection business and completed 20 docuented inspections will be able to join the A.C.H.I. without the later to be required community college courses under their belts. There are special provisions for Inspectors who have been in the business for longer periods of time too.
The A.C.H.I. believes that there is great value in work experience and further, believes that in field experience can often trump class room training. Just graduated? The A.C.H.I. will help you through the entrance requirements and make that passage as painless as possible. ALL inspectors are welcome.
•Uses the strength of numbers to negotiate lower prices on everything from errors and omissions insurance to work clothes, from tools to automobiles. With 130,000 supporters the A.C.H.I. casts a large shadow and has and will continue to negotiate lower pricing for our members on a variety of goods and services.

Many Inspectors may say I dont want to join any union! I am an independent businessman and will never walk a picket line or answer to a union boss!

Every member of the Board of Directors agrees with these sentiments. The strength of our industry and of the A.C.H.I. is that it is populated by independently minded, self promoted, achieving individuals. The ALLIANCE of CANADIAN HOME INSPECTORS has brought to Canadian Inspectors the best of both worlds by negotiating a purchase of service agreement with Canadas largest Union; the Teamsters of Canada.

This agreement allows Canadian Inspectors to enjoy all the benefits of an association with an organization that has 130,000 members, the national structure to provide services from coast to coast, the professional lobbyists who work with the people in government who actually make the decisions, the education department to provide professionally prepared courses for A.C.H.I. members, the union halls in every community to present those courses, the access to all types of insurance at very competitive rates, the strength of membership numbers to make sure that the voice of Canadian Home Inspectors is heard, the political and media organizations that Canadian Inspectors need to get the word out to the Canadian Public and much much more.

All this and more, without being forced to join a union. All the benefits of union membership with the freedom to remain private independent businessmen. It is a great deal for Canadian Inspectors. In fact it is the best deal, the greatest opportunity ever offered to any Inspectors anywhere. And when it comes time for government to listen to those of us who work in this industry, with the full support of a 130,000 members of Canadas most powerful union, with a history of getting things done, the question of Who do you think government is going to turn to ? becomes moot. The answer is The A.C.H.I.!

The ALLIANCE of CANADIAN HOME INSPECTORS is here for the long hall. The A.C.H.I. has the full support of the Teamsters Union in the form of their huge resources. Already, our professional lobbyists are fanning out across the country to right the wrongs of past failures, to work on reduced liability for Home inspectors, mandatory inspections on houses twenty years and older, recognition of our industry as a trade by government agencies and the word of a new organization is spreading through the halls of government.. The entrance requirements set down by the membership of the A.C.H.I. will become the defacto licensing requirement across the country.

If you want to join an independent home inspection organization that provides all of the above and most importantly values every member as the most important asset then join us at;

theachi.org

And join us as we change the Canadian Home Inspection industry for the better.
Join THE ALLIANCE OF CANADAIN HOME INSPECTORS. Its your industry and your future.

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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2010, 08:54:22 PM »

A very exciting opportunity for all home inspectors.   Wink Thank you George!!!
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2010, 05:04:39 AM »

•Accepts all practicing Home Inspectors. The A.C.H.I. has been formed to welcome as many Home Inspectors as want to join. For the first year after the official launch, any practicing Home Inspector who has completed a minimum one or more years of documented inspection business and completed 20 docuented inspections will be able to join the A.C.H.I. without the later to be required community college courses under their belts. There are special provisions for Inspectors who have been in the business for longer periods of time too.

This is way too little to expect for a "home inspector" to be given a recognized designation. I believe the mimimum should be RHI or a similar equivalent such as NCH. The standards in this field should be being raised not lowered......BC did it the right way. Remember we are dealing with large purchases by our clients; they truly deserve the best.

EXAMPLE:
Recently did an inspection of a 3 year old side-by-side duplex ($600,000+) in which the street level garages had legally been turned into small commercial rental spaces. The electrical authority had "inspected" the new service entrances + other changes and placed their inspection sticker on the meter boxes. Even with the power "off" to one of the new commercial spaces, visually I could pick out problems. When the power to this unit was turned on, a 4 week nightmare began for the the vendors, agents and my clients, the buyers.

After refusing to accept the work of 2 of the vendor's "electricians", a third was brought in by our side. $2,400 later, the separation of this commercial and living unit was complete.........and this was after "an inspection" had been done by the AHJ.

I was able to charge $1,300 for my services and know my young clients will be recommending me to others.

We need to have longer periods of training; our homes are becoming more complicated with air exchange systems, sprinklers, new products (stucco) being introduced. I just consulted on a $700,000 doctor's retirement home currently under construction.....all the installed ducting for the air exhange system will be ripped out and re-done. I have two reports of a large competitor on my desk....their comments on the air exchange systems in houses- "An air exchanger was noted". We need much better than this!!!
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2010, 05:50:14 AM »

Brian,
This is the qualification requirement during the grandfathering period ONLY which is what is initially required to not be exclusionary and to help assist home inspectors to get the education and mentoring required to properly advance in their career.  After the grandfathering period the standards for entrance and qualifications will be MUCH higher in order to set and maintain a proper standard.

John
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2010, 05:51:29 AM »

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•Accepts all practicing Home Inspectors. The A.C.H.I. has been formed to welcome as many Home Inspectors as want to join. For the first year after the official launch, any practicing Home Inspector who has completed a minimum one or more years of documented inspection business and completed 20 docuented inspections will be able to join the A.C.H.I. without the later to be required community college courses under their belts. There are special provisions for Inspectors who have been in the business for longer periods of time too.

The A.C.H.I. believes that there is great value in work experience and further, believes that in field experience can often trump class room training. Just graduated? The A.C.H.I. will help you through the entrance requirements and make that passage as painless as possible. ALL inspectors are welcome.

There is no evidence to suggest RHI or NC holders are any better then what the requirements are to join ACHI. Particularly in Ontario where at least one association has very serious issues as to how it goes about accepting and testing inspectors, not to mention the misapplication of a government private members bill wherein anyone in the Registry is an RHI.

In addition an association which is inclusive rather than exclusionary has to be the new norm and should be seen as a positive step in drawing 'all' inspectors into the profession.

There is also that remaining problem that NC has not been accredited to CAN P9, and to suggest otherwise is patently false.

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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2010, 06:43:09 AM »

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Supporting the OAHI    I understand that this forum is to allow free speech on home inspection related topics but it seems to me if certain people really cared about the OAHI they would join a committee and help make this association what the majority of members believe it could be instead of trying to reinvent the wheel using recycled parts!
I know, I know, you tried to volunteer but the position of president was already filled! So pick something else! I am willing to bet everyone of us has had a tough time dealing with somebody or something in this organization at one time or another but if you think the way to fix it is to try and tear it down or create a similar organization, association, body or whatever you want to call it, then you are going to get out of this association exactly what you put in to it, nothing!
And for those that think I am talking about them just think what we could do if you would just let go of the past, reel in your ego and pride and find some common ground to focus our energies on; the OAHI would be awesome!
That's right, the OAHI! Sure we need a national standard but the OAHI does not need a national designation! Sure there is strength in numbers but we don't need a union to get there! Look at all the successful companies that are not unionized!
And we don't need federal money to be true to ourselves! As you can see the lure of federal money corrupted a very promising program, (it did not destroy it, it corrupted it)! And to paraphrase: "like the Phoenix it will rise from the ashes again" hopefully with better planning and tighter controls.
And what makes any association a success are the volunteers and we need volunteers!
So fellow members I will put it to you this way, what would you rather be, "WINNERS" or whiners?
If you would like to be "WINNERS" then please call the office and get your name on the volunteer list and if you would rather be a whiner, there are a number of similar organizations hawking their wares on this forum that really need you! I would also like to point out that there is a big difference between constructive criticism and whining and I personally don't see anything positive or "WINNING" about whining!

Kirk Iredale, RHI

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Important News for Canadian Inspectors.    
John,
In my professional experience if it is too good to be true then guess what... it is not true!
No offense but we don't need another "snake oil" salesman! There are too many on this forum now!
You made this pitch to me a while ago and I will say the same thing I said then and that I have said to others on this forum, "PROVE IT"!
Your whole sales pitch is based on what some unrelated organization has done for an unrelated industry and that ACHI has negotiated a brand new “purchase of service” agreement! So, what is it and what does it cost, (there is always a cost)!
If ACHI is for real then show us a business plan! Nothing is free!
And who cares about independent home inspectors that do not want to contribute to anybody but themselves! The OAHI is building a profession and a reputation! We are not trying to be the biggest, we are trying to be the best! And based on your definition why would an "independent" join any union? It goes against who they are! I know, you are going to make the point about greed/cheap/free whatever, money conquers all! I don't see how that platform can build a profession to be proud of. I can see it building numbers like NACHI but not credibility! (Interesting, I never noticed the similarity to the NACHI name until now).
I don't care about 130,000 non-home inspectors or 27 lobbyists that know nothing about home inspectors! I do care about why they would be interested in home inspectors and what it is going to cost me!
The only difference between you and Bill is that you appear to have more money behind you but the bottom line is that you both have to be leaders and there is no room for your kind of leadership in the OAHI otherwise you would have tried to work with the system and joined a committee or presented some of your ideas to the board!
As I have said to Bill, present me with facts and if you have a better mouse trap that will benefit the OAHI members, then I will acquiesce to the majority.

Well, that is enough for now.

Kirk Iredale, RHI

Well its nice to hear from the puppet again. Even stranger is this Director repeatedly fails to address the real issues. This from the same guy who participated in untendered renovations of the OAHI office which was also leased without membership approval! Don't forget about financial issues, non news letters, vote rigging, intimidation, default on payments to CAHPI, conflicts of interest.



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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2010, 06:50:33 AM »

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Kirk,
Great questions. No, almost nothing is free in life. Membership into ACHI will be $396.00/year, much lower than what many home inspectors are paying now to many organizations and not receiving the free education, support, mentoring or recognition in the walls of government. That covers allll yearly dues and everthing that goes along with membership in ACHI...free building codes course, free defect recognition courses, discounts accross Canada on everyting from work clothing to cars.

As for credibility, we are welcoming every home inspector into the fold during the grandfathering period. This is to allow for the upgrading of skills and career development at a non prohibative cost. One year after the launch, the entrance and maintenance criteria will be much tighter. That is how you gain credibility. Set a standard, then give the home inspector the opportunity to learn and upgrade his skills, and do so for FREE, so that the standard is attainable by all.

Kirk, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, however, what ACHI is able to provide our members, the credibility achieved by making the home inspection industry a professional trade (which is already being worked on in the halls of government), the support and recognition from the government that our agreement with the Teamsters provides us, while not being exclusionary to anyone, is what is the differentiator. It is not about "greed/cheap/free whatever, money conquers all". As ACHI is a not for profit organization and all profits will be reinvested into the organization to benefit the home inspector, it no longer about money at all.....it is about being there for the inspector....period.
You are correct, the 130,000 non-home inspectors may not know anything about our industry, however, the lobbyist do! They have taken great pride and interest to learn about our industry and our history, and agree that the time for change is now. The 130,000 supporters give us the backing to ensure we are able to get where we need to go....and to provide the home inspector with the benefits of association in a large membership. We are here for the long haul and are "in it" for the the home inspector.
To be honest Kirk, our ideas were not presented to any boards and we didn't join any committee's because it seemed to be all about a power struggle and we were not interested in playing games of politics. We just want to do what will benefit the home inspector.
If you are really interested in looking at the facts, you are more than welcome to take a look around www.theachi.org (still in the constuction stage but provides lots of information) or even join me for a coffee.

John.

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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2010, 09:01:55 AM »

We have been receiving a lot of Email asking how much a membership in the ALLIANCE costs. In an effort to keep costs to members down to a manageable level and still allow the ALLIANCE to provide a maximum of services to the membership, the cost has been set at $396.00 CDN (plus taxes of course !)
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2010, 09:16:19 AM »

John
Well said.
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2010, 09:20:18 AM »

Looks like the Alliance has ruffled some feathers in OAHI. That crap Kirk is spewing is baloney, OAHI has had its chances for over a decade and have done completely nothing, no services, no answers a Registrar who treats the members like sh*t and gets paid to do it. Where are the benefits OAHI espouses?

Now a new president who is known for his intimidation tactics, tantrums, and attempted assaults.



Anyone who believes anything Kirk Iredale says is gullible.
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2010, 09:28:43 AM »

Is The ALLIANCE of CANADIAN HOME INSPECTORS a for profit association? or non-profit association?
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2010, 09:38:21 AM »

Is The ALLIANCE of CANADIAN HOME INSPECTORS a for profit association? or non-profit association?

 Allen it is non-profit
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2010, 10:05:57 AM »

We have been receiving a lot of Email asking how much a membership in the ALLIANCE costs. In an effort to keep costs to members down to a manageable level and still allow the ALLIANCE to provide a maximum of services to the membership, the cost has been set at $396.00 CDN (plus taxes of course !)

If the Alliance is registered as a for non-profit association then why is it plus taxes?
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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2010, 10:28:21 AM »

Allen, thanks so much!  Cheesy  
We just got verification from the accountant that you are correct and we do not, at this time, have to charge our members tax on their dues!  This means our membership fees are even less expensive and more affordable to Home Inspectors and will be $396/year with no additional tax costs.  Thanks again!

John.
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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2010, 10:36:40 AM »

Thank you John, we have had some members ask us about the alliance but we have not been able to answer any questions, one time please contact myself so we can discuss how or if the alliance can benifit some of our members.
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