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Raymond Wand
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« Reply #180 on: July 29, 2010, 09:25:24 PM »

I don't support anything other then the fact unlike the National, ACHI has never claimed to be in 'reasonable compliance' with CAN P9. And why would they when the national is not in compliance?

Marcel

Surely Ray,

You can do better than that!

That is a very sad response Roll Eyes...

Unlike NHICC ACHI has not had the audacity to claim its in reasonable compliance. As I and others have continually pointed out you either are or you are not in compliance. Simple.



I am again disappointed in your response!

Who are you to claim that being in reasonable compliance is not acceptable…


I am referencing CAN P9. You have read it haven't you?

Sorry that being astute enough to see through this ruse is upsetting you.

NATIONAL CERITIFICATION IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH CAN P9NATIONAL CERITIFICATION IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH CAN P9
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« Reply #181 on: July 29, 2010, 09:28:45 PM »

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Nowhere did I see, or state the the NCP and/or the NHICC was "accredited or in full compliance", or had endorsement by means of an "official" audit for CAN-P-9. This does not "stop" any certification body from "reasonably" adhering to such "voluntary goals" as their objectives to attain it now, or in the near future.

By way of advertising that NC is in reasonable compliance NCA are implying to the public that the program meets the requirements of CAN P9. To be truly a certifying body you must meet the requirements of CAN P9.  

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My point being that many inspectors equally claim they "comply with the SOP". In reality, how many actually do follow it exactly to the letter?

I fail to see the comparison, NC is not solely about following the SOP. The NC is about being certified to a standard that also involves having NCA which is the overseer being in compliance with certification standards. NCA wants inspectors to comply with its program, but NCA does not want to meet the standards of CAN P9. Sounds like a double standard.

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The same holds true of the inspection reports I have seen from other inspectors too. So it is easy to critique, but would it not make sense to improve, where improvement is needed.

From what I am hearing TIPR examiners are falling into the less then spectacular reporting methods in their private practice.

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I know that I have seen many a report that "DO NOT comply" with the SOP.

Me too.
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« Reply #182 on: July 29, 2010, 09:38:01 PM »

Have the knowledge and training does not mean it is used .
 Roy Cooke .... RHI...

Agree!

As we all know nothing comes with a guarantee; but proper education can certainly reduce risks.
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« Reply #183 on: July 29, 2010, 10:05:47 PM »

I don't support anything other then the fact unlike the National, ACHI has never claimed to be in 'reasonable compliance' with CAN P9. And why would they when the national is not in compliance?

Marcel

Surely Ray,

You can do better than that!

That is a very sad response Roll Eyes...

Unlike NHICC ACHI has not had the audacity to claim its in reasonable compliance. As I and others have continually pointed out you either are or you are not in compliance. Simple.



I am again disappointed in your response!

Who are you to claim that being in reasonable compliance is not acceptable…


I am referencing CAN P9. You have read it haven't you?

Sorry that being astute enough to see through this ruse is upsetting you.


So Ray,

Because ASHI (which incidently you are a member of) just recently became compliant to a similar certification, you now expect all associations, except the one offering free education, to meet those requirements...

ME SAY, GET REAL!
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Marcel Gratton # NCA00376, PHPIC
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« Reply #184 on: July 29, 2010, 10:11:30 PM »


NATIONAL CERITIFICATION IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH CAN P9NATIONAL CERITIFICATION IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH CAN P9

But Ray,

THE NATIONAL CERTIFICATION PROGRAM HAS NEVER CLAIMED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CAN P9!
THE NATIONAL CERTIFICATION PROGRAM HAS NEVER CLAIMED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CAN P9!
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« Reply #185 on: July 30, 2010, 05:28:36 AM »

But Marcel have you read CAN P9?

Its obvious you have not.

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« Reply #186 on: July 31, 2010, 04:58:13 AM »


NATIONAL CERTIFICATION PROGRAM REVIVED !!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPWcV9KMIEU
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